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Darkspacer
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 197 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:25 am Post subject: Simulation vs The Pods, discuss |
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Question: Can the Machines deactivate the Simulation without disturbing the function of the Pods?
Consider the ramifications if this was possible. The "level of survival" the Architect is willing to accept might refer to a low-power standby mode the pods are capable of without the Simulation stimulating the bluepills to produce more energy.
If this is the case then any effort to shut down the simulation is largely moot, and the importance of maintaining the Truce is magnified. _________________
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jediken21 Lost soul
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 565 Location: Bowtie
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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if they have the knowledge about the human brain then i think they could find a way to put a human being in a "coma", in which the mind is unconsious but the body is alive and most likely producing the same amount or close to the same amount of bio energy. |
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Prodigel
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 143 Location: NE
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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While that technically may be right, i doubt that's how the Matrix universe works. If redpills die when someone pulls the plug on them while they're jacked in, I'd wager everyone connected to the simulation would croak if the machines ever pulled the BIG plug. And besides, it would make for a really crappy story if they ever developed a way around it. _________________ Can't sleep, penguins will eat me... |
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Prodigel
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 143 Location: NE
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Oh what the hell?? I come up with a valid, intelligent, and well-worded response, and then the thread just dies. There's got to be some fanboy out there who'll respond to my post! _________________ Can't sleep, penguins will eat me... |
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FrayJack Lost soul
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 985 Location: cravf be int
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: |
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I've gotta agree, why should they make things easier and such when if its all hard and complicated they can build a confusing story around it
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Darkspacer
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 197 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Prod, your position relies on the (slightly narrowminded IMHO) opinion that the only way to turn the simulation off is to pull the big plug out. Granted the canon supports it completely, so in that sense you're probably completely right. But it makes sense that there is probably also a more subtle means of deactivating the simulation, "pausing" it, or otherwise setting it on standby. _________________
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Prodigel
Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 143 Location: NE
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm not arguing that. I'm just trying to go in line with the Bros. vision. No doubt that if (and this is a ludicrous statement in and of itself) the Matrix story were to ACTUALLY occur, the machines would find a way to suck away our brain power and all that jazz without the need of a simulation. The brain learns as it develops, it adapts. So if our brains were never exposed to reality, or a simulacrum thereof, they would still continue to function in whatever capacity the current situation would require. _________________ Can't sleep, penguins will eat me... |
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PlagueOnWheels
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 265 Location: Naples, FL
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:32 am Post subject: |
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The brain develops in response to stimuli, though. If there is nothing to stimulate it, it'll function, but on a dramatically lower level than it would with something to stimulate it. It works kinda like a muscle - use it, and it gets stronger; ignore it, and you go EPN. _________________
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d4sh Faction Leader, Antares Captain
Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 3882 Location: The Antares
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: |
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